NYC Proprietary Trading Firms (2024)

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ArcherVice

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The odds of you finding equivalent success in trading is slim to none, especially once your livelihood depends on it. You should be fulfilled with that aspect of your life (career) especially if you have the freedom to trade on the side.

Stop looking at "firms" that are effectively scams.

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tradingjd

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Thanks. You're probably right. I'm just trying to learn enough so that I can come to the same conclusion and stop having the thought linger in my mind that this could be a potential career move. Why would you say that these places are scams - they probably are, I just have absolutely no idea.

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ArcherVice

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The gist of it is, some "firms'" business model is built around collecting fees from you and shifting their risk onto you. They'll charge for their "education", collecting fees on your transactions and they push you to trade more... Others have you put up your money and give you leverage with theirs, but you take the losses and they take a huge cut of the upside if you have any. Nasty places.

I've discussed this before, though it was to some prospective college kids looking to forgo school in order to trade. Imagine 5-10 years down the road if you are only making OK money, not making money or even losing money. It gets to be a bleak picture pretty fast. As I stated above, the game changes when your sole income depends on your results.

Not to mention, if you're already consistently profitable, there is no reason you should change what you're doing. Take the S&P 500 emini for instance, 1pt on one contract is $50. If you can average 5-10pts per contract per week, you're doing very well; on 5 contracts that's $1,250-2,500 per week, but the product is so liquid you could easily (in time) scale up to 50 or even 120 contracts. Obviously, I'm not suggesting you just put on a huge position I'm just pointing out that so long as you're consistent you can build up to a point where it's worth your while and you don't have to give up your current salary or job security to do it.

As far as interest goes, trading is mundane, repetitious, tedious and boring as hell. If you don't think so, you haven't been trading long enough yet. Don't take this the wrong way, but I wonder why people who have made millions in other endeavors feel the need to give it away trying to learn how to trade. I call it being overcapitalized. More money than knowledge. Food for thought.

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Lexington55

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Listen to archervice... you have a fine life and going down the prop trading route is one way to quickly ruin the life you have right now

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EnergyHOU

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Arch is right, stay away. Stay in the retail market and enjoy the success you have been finding part-time doing your own thing. If one day you TRULY wanted to take trading to another level, you'd be far better off on your own with a self-funded account then joining one of these borderline useless firms that will churn you in and out in less than 12 months.

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poldark

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TradingJD -- In a similar situation and weighing my options as well. Did you ever make the move? If not, why not?

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People who call Prop trading firms scams are sore losers.The essence of prop trading or an arcade is to give you leverage to trade. You can make hella money if u're ahead of the game. You can end up being in underwear below the bridge if u can't allocate your risks.

It's just an opportunity for skilled ppl. Don't talk sh*t if you didn't make it

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Why is it hard to pass the prop firm challenge? ›

Many traders fail the challenge because they try to meet the profit target too quickly and end up taking unnecessary risks. Remember, the prop firm is looking for traders who can consistently make profits over an extended period. Take your time to analyze the market and only take trades that align with your strategy.

What percentage of traders pass prop firm challenge? ›

The article from Lux Trading Firm provides slightly different results. According to it, 4% of traders, on average, pass prop firm challenges. But only 1% of traders kept their funded accounts for a reasonable amount of time.

Are proprietary trading firms legit? ›

A legitimate prop trading company normally follows a set of rules and regulations that give the traders a certain level of accountability and transparency. Everyone wants to avoid getting scammed, and that is always a possibility when money is involved, so it is always a good idea to conduct a due diligence.

How do I know if my prop firm is legit? ›

Legit prop funding firms also offer a transparent, fair, and competitive profit-sharing model. Transparent profit shares are foundational to a dependable and trustworthy prop trading firm. Prioritize firms that are clear about how their profit-splitting agreement works.

Which prop firm is easy to pass? ›

Overview: MyFundedFutures is the best futures prop trading firm on this list for a variety of reasons, but most notably because it boasts one of the highest pass rate for its evaluation program out of all the futures prop firms on this list.

How to pass prop firm fast? ›

Tips for Passing a Prop Firm Trading Challenge
  1. Understand the Rules of Engagement: ...
  2. Master Your Trading Strategy: ...
  3. Risk Management is Non-Negotiable: ...
  4. Leverage Your Analytical Skills: ...
  5. Stay Disciplined and Patient: ...
  6. Continuous Learning is the Key: ...
  7. Embrace Feedback and Adapt: ...
  8. Simulate Real Trading Conditions:
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Do prop firms really pay out? ›

Statistics on Average Trader Payouts

Profit Split: The average prop firm will offer a 80-20 profit split once you become a funded trader. TFT, on the other hand, gives up to a 90% split, — even as high as 95% in some promotions — the highest in the industry.

What happens if you lose prop firm money? ›

Proprietary trading firms often provide evaluation accounts where you prove your trading skills. Usually, you pay a one-time fee to enter this “challenge.” If you lose money during this evaluation, you won't owe anything beyond the initial fee.

Why is proprietary trading risky? ›

3.1 Classic proprietary trading

This almost always involves taking market risk, which is the risk that changes in the market prices of financial instruments or commodities may create a loss for the firm.

What are the negatives of prop firms? ›

Among many other potential factors, the main disadvantages of prop trading arise from being classified as a market professional, unfavorable profit sharing, and whether your net trading profits are taxed as capital gains or ordinary personal income.

How long does it take to pass a prop firm? ›

It typically takes around 4-5 months to become a prop firm funded trader, if you're a consistently profitable trader. Some traders can achieve this much faster by using increased risk. However, the likelihood of failing the trading challenges would be increased.

How long should it take to pass a prop firm challenge? ›

For most funded trading accounts, it takes around four to five months to pass the screening process or prop firm trading challenge, before funding will be allocated to a trader.

Why do people fail prop firms? ›

Psychological Barriers in Trading

Many traders fail to control the emotional urge to keep pushing for higher returns, often ignoring the prudent step of taking profits at planned levels or adjusting stop losses to protect against market reversals.

What is the failure rate of the prop firm challenge? ›

Understanding the Prop Firm Challenge

At its core, the prop firm challenge can be a way for prop firms to make money from failed challenges. This is because some sources have the failure rate of prop trading challenges at 90%. So for every 10 traders that buy a challenge, 9 will fail.

Is the FTMo challenge hard? ›

There is estimated to be a 90% fail rate of traders that take the FTMO challenge. The reason behind this is due to traders chasing the profit target with a time restriction in place. A trader doesnt know when a winning streak might occur, or when they may take a string of drawdowns.

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